Just how aware of what Pemulis is up to (good or bad) Hal is would certainly affect his ability to judge whether/why Pemulis is lying and what to think about it.-I think a few big gestures on DFW’s part could stand more elaborate interpretation. Maybe he’d dose me. ?”I just caught up to this point this afternoon (and then had to stop, one of those IJ gets really powerful you have to put it down and take a bath or something moments), so this is all very not-yet-processed for me. It opened everyone up in this strange, almost spiritual way. I can Identify with many of the characters in IJ at various points, sometimes in ways that horrify me, but I can never really feel anything about Pemulis other than that he’s a highly entertaining character who does a good job of moving along whatever plot there is.
ETA and Avril and Orin and JOI are in his blood. Pemulis doesn’t get the joke.) I’m not buying it. It’s made clear early on that he’s a 2nd rate tennis player approaching an age where the academy ruthlessly hands out walking papers. Hal’s got an Inside problem, as we already know. Feels to me like you’re reaching and reading stuff that’s not there (though it’s also possible I’m not reading stuff that is there, I’ll own).Yes, Pemulis is definitely driven by a desire to not sink back down into the pit of Allston. But at the same time, I don’t have the same sense of unfairness about it that you do.
and was thrown off by his sudden villaining. Pemulis is a great, if misunderstood character, who gets a bad rap and the raw end of this deal.I agree Daryl, generally — Pemulis has had something or other coming to him. And I do think that someone of his immense talents will end up o.k. It comes right after we learn that Mario never lies and it doesn’t occur to him that anyone else could be lying, and right before Hal confesses the extent of his secret Bob Hoping in the pipe room.
Dr. Michael Pemulis was a critically well received but commercially unsuccessful singer/songwriter in the 1980s.
Agreed, he doesn’t know that Hal knows; Pemulis trying to keep it secret. Though IJ resists summations re what it’s about, one of the things it’s about is a journey of self.
Dracht van de roman was lang. Personally, I think Avril is way worse than Pemulis. On Pemulis and Allston – I wasn’t clear. This connects to a number of themes of addiction, of secrecy, and of dealing with consequences. I think, if we are to take Hal seriously about the ‘brass mask’, the idea is that the only really convincing kind of liar is one who has himself as convinced as everyone else, making Pemulis in the end a much more simply tragic figure than an actually villainous one, IMO.I feel like Wallace’s portrayal of Pemulis is depicted through the eyes of Hal. Pemulis trying to get Hal to shift addictions, and his explanation for it, dovetails in very interesting ways with the suggestions in the AA parts of the book that you never really become unaddicted, you just switch your addictions, but also really shows Pemulis’s love for Hal.Three, a major facet of the Pemulis character is that he is (i) obsessed with the possibility of getting caught in his misdeeds and punished, but (ii) never stops. What I get from AA/IJ (again, I’m conflating them because I really don’t have much of an impression of AA outside of the incredibly rich and full-colored representation of it in this novel) is that the Spider is an intensely personal and internal force to be reckoned with and while, yes, enablers can make it easier for an addict to relapse…to put the blame for any relapses on peer pressure comes dangerously close to the kind of rationalizing of which the Crocodiles are so suspicious. His position (as a member of the Incandenza family)perhaps puts him in the worst position and the deepest hole, ie, he’s never known anything different. Yes, he’s a bad influence on Hal (and likely others at ETA).
I don’t buy that at all, not even a little tiny bit. is literally Pemulis’ worst nightmare — his “deepest dread is of academic or disciplinary expulsion and ejection, of having to schlepp back down Comm. Bear in mind that Mario doesn’t really accept Hal’s judgement of Mike as a brass-faced liar, insisting that his (Mario’s) methodology of always believing everybody is a perfectly reasonable response, even to people like Pemulis. so in true Southy fashion “fuck him if he cant take a joke”Asking questions are in fact fastidious thing if youI don’t really have a problem with MP’s send off. Now that Orin has taken football by storm I'm sure that other football teams would be chomping on the bit to sign on a kid from the same tennis academy that Orin came from in hopes of striking talent gold like BU did.Option 2 Pemulis, expelled and substance dependent, goes back home at first but then eventually ends up on the Boston streets for obvious reasons. Mikey P’s spirited hijinks and rule-breaking makes him heroic to a bunch of prep-school smart-assess (and us, the readers, also prep-school smart asses by extension since we have the leisure to read such a thing), and it is those very qualities that get him booted.
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